Big Apple Security Becomes two new schools

If you follow this blog you already know that Big Apple Security was the first school I exposed on this blog with their unethical business practices.

In an effort to keep an eye on these people to make sure they can't come back and screw more people. I googled the numbers of the defunct Big Apple Security and discovered that two of the number are being used by two new Security Guard Schools.

The Two schools are:

1. Diamond Security Protection Inc 69-27 Myrtle Avenue Glendale, NY 11385 (718) 418-5557
2. Prime Security Training & Placement 35 Journal Square Jersey City, NJ 07306 201-668-9417

I haven't been able to find any dirt on Diamond Security Protection, Inc. YET! So IF you went through them and they trained you less than 8 hours or 16 hours for your certification they have stolen from you. Also the state is cracking down on these scam school that are not training people properly are getting their licenses revoked. So if they get their license revoke that will make your certificate worthless and you will have to come out your pocket for another class. Please email me with any information about this business.

If you are trying to become a security officer in New Jersey I suggest you stay away from Prime Security Training & Placement because no one can guarantee you a job. Especially Mr. Burgess who has a history of screwing people here in NYC. Back in 5/18/2012 I contacted Mr Burgess owner of big apple security I told him I literally had all the training and he was still going to charge me $75 for what!!! He couldn't explain to me what the fee was for. If the advertised as a staffing agency and a training school I would understand but they have people coming in to interview for jobs he doesn't have. taking advantage of the poor broke people. Instead of going after the rich. Yeah cause massa has him trained. Expose these crooks and together we will clean up the industry.

School Review: Liberty Security Training Institute

As some of you know I expose scam Security Guard schools & Employment agencies on this blog. I recently had to get my 8 Hour Annual In-Service certification so I can renew my license.

So after some googling I found the Liberty Security Training Institute. The price was right. Usually most schools charge $45 for the class but They are running a winter sale for 8 Hour Annual In-Service class $38 but if you prepay online they give another 5 bucks off so mit ended up cost just $33. The class comes with lunch and a beverage.

I do not know if they help the new Officers with their paper work so I do not know if they charge for that service. You can see the list of classes and prices on their site at  http://www.libertysecuritytraininginstitute.com/  There is no scamming here no silly employment agency crap going on.

Just as a heads up this school is by the book. This isnt a certificate mill. If you signed up for the 8 hour class be prepared to be there for the full 8 hours. But you will get a great refresher course and the time flies by you also get breaks in between.

I put my money where my mouth is I went through this myself and it was money not wasted. I highly recommend taking this course.

List Of Security Guard Schools Shut down by the New York State Division of Criminal Justice

Below are two listings. The first list identifies security guard training schools that are either suspended or revoked. The second list identifies currently approved security guard training schools.

SUSPENDED OR REVOKED SECURITY GUARD TRAINING SCHOOLS

The NYS Division of Criminal Justice Services (DCJS) approval of the below-listed security guard training schools has been SUSPENDED OR REVOKED due to the school’s non-compliance with the Security Guard Program rules and regulations. These schools are NO LONGER DCJS-APPROVED and may no longer operate as a DCJS-approved security guard training school to conduct security guard training courses required by New York State General Business Law Article 7-A, section 89-n.

Which means that if you received a certificate from any of these schools it is now void meaning that it is now worthless and your license might be suspended as well if you do not get it fixed.

The Shut down Schools are:

• Access Global Security Corp - 312162 REVOKED 12/21/2011
• American Security Training - 241295 REVOKED 12/14/2010
• Basi Security Trng-411706 REVOKED 3/29/2011
• Blue Steel Security Guard Trng Sch - 241860 REVOKED 7/31/2013
• Bronx Career Training & Placement Centers - 311835 REVOKED 1/14/2012
• CJL Security Services - 242205 REVOKED 4/15/2014
• FTI Inc - 301720 REVOKED 4/19/2010
• First Alert Security Plus - 242179 SUSPENDED 2/22/2015
• GM Security - 312142 REVOKED 9/2/ 2011
• Hagana Security Guard School - 441371 REVOKED 5/20/2011
• Imperial Security - 312210 REVOKED 6/26/2013
• Lindguy Prestige Sec Guard Trn School -241650 REVOKED 1/19/2012
• Miracle Security Training School - 411811 SUSPENDED 12/2/2014
• National Security Training & Placement - 312100 REVOKED 12/23/2011
• New Era Employment Sevices Inc.- 031569 REVOKED 04/29/2013
• New York Security Training Services - 411521 REVOKED 6/17/2010
• Njia Institute - 031838 REVOKED 1/13/2014
• On Time Security Training School - 031967 REVOKED 6/6/2011
• Sammed Security Training Ctr.- 011171 REVOKED 11/09/2011
• Scholastica Security Guard Trng School - 412191 REVOKED 7/27/2011
• Sebastian Ortiz Network Security Solution - 411916 REVOKED 7/11/2011
• Security 101 Training Center - 522084 REVOKED 2/2/2012
• Security Career Inst-411648 REVOKED 9/26/2010

For a list of DCJS APPROVED SECURITY GUARD TRAINING SCHOOLS go to http://www.criminaljustice.ny.gov/ops/docs/sgtraining/pubs/sgpapprovedschls.pdf starting at page 2 and look up what county you are in

A.G. Schneiderman Reaches Settlement With NYC Security Guard Training Company That Scammed Unemployed Consumers

Company Posted Phony Job Listings, Made False Promises Of Employment To Trick Consumers Into Paying For Expensive Training Courses

Schneiderman: This Settlement Permanently Prohibits Company From Advertising Employment Opportunities Or Conducting Security Guard Classes In New York

NEW YORK – Attorney General Eric T. Schneiderman today announced that his office had reached a settlement with 1st Security Prep and Placement, a large New York City security guard training school, and its owner Allen Haft, directing as much as $100,000 to unwitting victims who paid for expensive job training courses and were falsely promised jobs in return. The Office of the Attorney General sued 1st Security, located at 250 West 40th Street, and Allen Haft in New York State Supreme Court in April 2013 and obtained a temporary restraining order shutting the school down and freezing its assets. Since the temporary restraining order was issued, 1st Security has ceased to operate.

The settlement, which resolves the litigation against 1st Security and Allen Haft, permanently enjoins 1st Security and Mr. Haft from advertising or offering employment opportunities or employment placement assistance and from offering to sell, selling or conducting security guard or other safety-related training in New York. The settlement also turns over the nearly $100,000 in frozen funds to the Attorney General, which will be used to refund victims of 1st Security’s unlawful practices, and covers penalties, costs, and fees.

“Phony job listings lured thousands of vulnerable, unemployed New Yorkers into believing they would obtain work after paying for expensive training courses. In fact, this company’s whole operation was a scam,” Attorney General Schneiderman said. “This office will not tolerate individuals or companies who make false promises to deceive the public into paying for inferior products.” 

The Attorney General’s Office conducted an undercover investigation of the company revealing that it had posted hundreds of fake security guard job listings online on Craigslist and in newspapers including the New York Post, Metro, amNewYork, and the New York Daily News. The advertisements made it seem like the company was hiring employees at high hourly wages when in fact the company was selling inferior training courses. 

When consumers responded to the ads, 1st Security falsely promised them that they had been selected for a position but told applicants that before they could start working, they had to complete a series of security guard training courses, typically at a cost of $449 to $667. 

After consumers paid for and completed 1st Security’s training courses, they met with 1st Security’s placement office and were given worthless “referrals” to security guard companies -- instead of the promised jobs. When consumers followed up on the referrals, they were not hired for any positions usually because the companies were not hiring or were not interested in hiring individuals with no experience, who had not registered to work as a security guard. 

If you were a victim of 1st Security’s scheme, please call the Office of the Attorney General’s helpline at 1.800.771.7755 or file a complaint form, available here. The amount of restitution received by individual consumers will depend on how much money victims paid to the company, as well as the number of claims submitted. 

This settlement is the latest in a series of Attorney General enforcement actions against phony security guard schools and employment agencies. In September 2011, the Office of the Attorney General was awarded a nearly $4 million judgment in a court action against C.P. International Security and its owner, based on a similar scheme. In July 2013, the Office of the Attorney General indicted two owners of phony employment agency United Care Services for advertising nonexistent jobs to the public, promising that clients who paid for their services would be placed in the nonexistent jobs and stealing money from hundreds of New Yorkers.

The case was handled by Assistant Attorney General Benjamin J. Lee and Supervisory Investigator Andres Rodriguez, under the supervision of Bureau of Consumer Frauds and Protection’s Deputy Bureau Chief Laura J. Levine, Bureau Chief Jane M. Azia and Executive Deputy Attorney General for Economic Justice Karla G. Sanchez.

Security Guard Horror Stories: Sexist Ghetto Female Coworkers

It was a Friday morning I was finishing up my 6pm-6am shift. It was already 6:15am and our reliefs were already late. A vendor was on site and since the next crew wasn't there yet I took the responsibility of escorting them.I called up to the office at 6:30am to see if anyone showed up so they can come down and relieve me from escorting so I can send my partner “D” home since he has to be back 12 hours later and I can wait in the office for the other person “AJ” to come in to relieve me.“D” told me Ms. “F” was on site and that he will tell her to go down to relieve me.

A few minutes later “D” comes down to relieve me. I asked him why is it him that came down? He has to go home. “D” told me she didn't want to. “F” told him that She wasn't ready to start work because she hadn't taken off her boots or coat. (All of “F” which she could have down once she was done escorting the vendors. Keep in mind also she arrived late. And the rules state that if you are late you must be able to begin work as soon as you enter the building.) “F” told him in a snotty way “why don't you go relieve him”?

I went up to the security office to explain that “D” had to leave because he had to be back tonight, and I needed to stay in the office to wait for “AJ”. “F” stated with an attitude that it was “Too F**king bad that she just got in and she wasn't ready”. I told her that she is 30 minutes late and that is rude to make coworkers wait a minute longer. She told me that “E” is a bitch for crying about wanting to go home. That she is always relieved late and often stuck. I told her that has nothing to do with us it is unacceptable to be late. She replied Why don't you be a man and stop crying like a bitch. After that she went downstairs to finally relieve “E”. A few minutes later “AJ” arrives. I went to retrieve “E” for us to leave since both our reliefs finally arrived. When I called to clock out I was told that I was automatically signed out when “F” called in (from an outside phone which means they stop paying me) to sign in at 6am even though she was not on site till 6:30am. So she tried to steal money from me on top of the disrespect.

I was called into HR at the company and I was told that after the investigation they got her and her friend to accuse me of sexual harassment. They did not allow me to defend myself. I was immediately fired. That is the problem with contract security companies. They would rather fire someone than actually do an investigation because it is not about keeping good people who will work. Its about keep the client in the dark about the bullshit being pulled.

Jesse Jackson Calls For Better Treatment Of Amazon's Security Guards

This is Further proof that contract security workers are treated like crap.

http://www.kplu.org/post/jesse-jackson-calls-better-treatment-amazons-security-guards

Accompanied by a small entourage, Reverend Jesse Jackson spoke at a rally outside Amazon’s headquarters in Seattle Wednesday in support of Amazon’s security guards.

The security guards are not employed by Amazon, but instead work for a California-based company called Security Industry Specialists, or SIS.

Jackson led the modest crowd in a variation of "Hands up! Don't shoot!" — the chant recited by protesters in Ferguson, Missouri. The crowd turned it into a call for better conditions for low wage workers: “Hands up for jobs and justice! Hands up for security workers who want to see their children go to college. Hands up!”

The rally was partially organized by the Service Employees International Union, which accuses SIS of unfair labor practices. SIS, in turn, says the union is running a "vicious corporate” campaign against the company to pressure its workers to unionize.

Jackson has been in the Seattle area for the past few days shining a light on the lack of diversity in the tech industry. He is encouraging protesters demonstrating against the grand jury decision in Ferguson to express their opinions peacefully.

Use Of Force as a Security Guard.

I recently saw this video about 3 security guards allegedly suffocating a black man to death a la Eric Garner.

My first thought was Fucking Idiots! You are security with zero police powers.

According to the site legalmatch.com:

A security guard has the general authority to detain someone if there is probable cause that shoplifting has occurred. However, this authority has some limitations. Any time a security guard stops a shopper, it must be for a reasonable time, and must be done in a reasonable manner.

Probable Cause 

"Probable cause" means that a security guard has reason to suspect that shoplifting has occurred. This normally means that he or she observes an individual approach merchandise, select the merchandise, conceal or carry away the merchandise, and leave the store. If there is probable cause, the guard may detain the suspected individual.

Reasonable Manner

Detention of any shopper must be done in a reasonable manner. What is reasonable depends on the circumstances, but usually includes:

•  Physical restraint such as handcuffing if it appears to be necessary under the circumstances. 
•  A "pat down" of the suspect to determine whether he or she is carrying a weapon or otherwise poses a threat to safety. 
•  Requesting identification from the suspected shoplifter. 

A security guard can never use excessive force. Excessive force can include, but is not limited to, application of pain, choking, or improper handcuff use. Foul language, discriminatory slurs, and verbal threats can also be considered excessive force

Unreasonable detention by a store security guard may create valid claims of false arrest, false imprisonment, malicious prosecution, excessive use of force, or assault.  You may have the right to sue the store for damages you have incurred as a result of the detention.

If I were these guys I would shitting myself preparing to spend time in jail and be in debt from paying my share of the lawsuit. If the client expects you to act like a cop remind him of the liability it can open you up to. Your job is to observe and report. Not play fucking dirty harry. You will be left out in the cold if it goes wrong and no one will protect your interests. Be smart if you use violence on the job you will lose. There is no blue wall for security guards.